tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post9059279693736740381..comments2023-10-31T03:25:33.696-07:00Comments on Cassandra Says: Cassandra Sayshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-80023228808345859502007-08-15T15:03:00.000-07:002007-08-15T15:03:00.000-07:00Sugar in parritch?*shudder*Well, I don't play golf...Sugar in parritch?<BR/><BR/>*shudder*<BR/><BR/>Well, I don't play golf or drink, so I guess I won't be swinging the "real Scot" hammer around ...<BR/><BR/>ThomasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-24536430852161475982007-08-15T11:16:00.000-07:002007-08-15T11:16:00.000-07:00It occurs to me, as I think about it, that stuff l...It occurs to me, as I think about it, that stuff like "rich" has never struck me as being about 'attraction' (in the 'gets me horny' sense) so much as a sort of meta-attraction.<BR/><BR/>I would be surprised by people who were actually turned on by "guy with money". I would <I>not</I> be surprised by people who were aroused by (or found arousal much easier) interactions that are predicated on "with money" -- who found much more eroticism in the candlelit dinner at the fancy French place for which reservations must be made three weeks in advance than going out for really good sushi at the place around the corner, say. (Especially since the 'really fancy dinner' is part of the cultural mythology of seduction.)<BR/><BR/>Which gets into the whole question of what are the meta-attractive traits for someone to have, and what they say about people and society.Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-14972394574715377802007-08-14T23:45:00.000-07:002007-08-14T23:45:00.000-07:00Sally - Agreed. It really is a shame that you don'...Sally - Agreed. It really is a shame that you don't live close enough for us to go out drinking together. <BR/><BR/>And the gender transgression thing pleases me even when it doesn't appeal to my particular kinks. I'm not attracted to butch women, but I'm still delighted that they exist. And people who LOOK very gender-congruent but don't act it are always interesting to be around, too. <BR/><BR/>And the fragile flower thing...so annoying. It really feels almost Victorian to me. I can see the need to talk about male violence etc but when it spills over into the idea that women are so delicate that they need to be protected from men, those lustful creatures...well, what about the women who are lustful creatures, too? What about those of us who LIKE being around men and don't feel threatened just because a guy has a libido? I see what the theory is aiming to accomplish, but it's missing the target by miles, and I can't help but feel that it ends up reinforcing exactly the "women must be sequestered for their own safety" attitudes that it decries.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-5754919245394467792007-08-13T18:22:00.000-07:002007-08-13T18:22:00.000-07:00See, the men you like, I call them "attractive"......See, the men you like, I call them "attractive"...period. And while thin, their bodies? Well, definately NOT FEMININE imho. Shrug. To me it seems like you enjoy beauty, and there are some beautiful men out there...and they tend to be "less rugged and buffed out".<BR/><BR/>And no, I get you with the physical/powerful personality thing. I don't find "rich" as something that makes me horny either.Renegade Evolutionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17905949172886730262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-79974815233906849962007-08-13T16:23:00.000-07:002007-08-13T16:23:00.000-07:00Zan - I had wondered how all this plays out for wo...Zan - I had wondered how all this plays out for women who are tall, since most of my female friends are pretty leprechaun-like. If you were to eliminate men shorter than you...that's a lot of guys, and what if some of them are really great? Why miss out?<BR/><BR/>Also, I think most women are less visually-oriented than me. How much of that is innate and how much is cultural - who knows? I'm not convinced that the typical male monomaniacal focus on looks is necessarily innate either. Now there's a topic for discussion.<BR/><BR/>The certainty in oneself thing...yep, entirely in agreement there. And it is hard to define - it doesn't have to be loud or ostentatious, in fact in some cases it's very quiet, but you know it when you see it. And I think that quality is ALWAYS attractive, in both men and women. <BR/><BR/>"I need someone whose masculinity is not threatened by my desire to protect them. There. "<BR/>That's an excellent way to put it. I'm not attracted to insecure people, and if a guy is that easily threatened...well, what's wrong with him? Why is his sense of self so fragile? Why would I want to date someone who can be thrown out of whack that easily? What happens if/when we find ourselves in an actual crisis? It seems sort of...weak-willed to me, that "I must be better than my woman in some way to make me feel like a Real Man" thing.<BR/><BR/>And you don't strike me as scary or overwhelming at all, just confident and articulate, and since when are those bad things? If guys are getting all freaked out by your failure to bat your eyelashes and defer to them...what a bunch of big babies. You wouldn't want one of those anyway.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-29406122673779872792007-08-13T15:41:00.000-07:002007-08-13T15:41:00.000-07:00Pssssst! Cassandra!If you're available, we're kind...Pssssst! Cassandra!<BR/><BR/>If you're available, we're kind of talking about trying to have a picnic either friday evening or Saturday afternoon. The thread is <A HREF="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/08/09/lets-have-a-picnic/" REL="nofollow">here</A>, and I'd love to have you there!<BR/><BR/>---MycaMycahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06169534197143405966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-49778030369248008442007-08-13T09:21:00.000-07:002007-08-13T09:21:00.000-07:00"And the fact that women don't respond consistentl..."And the fact that women don't respond consistently to certain stuff isn't read as 'different people like different stuff', it's 'those women are so incomprehensible and irrational, I don't know how to communicate with them.' And the belief in the inability to communicate creates the barrier, which then gets elaborated with more goddamn mythology about why communication is so hard."<BR/><BR/>Oh my God, I HATE that sort of crap. All of that bullshit about: "so what do women want" as if there's one thing that all women want all the time makes me want to punch something. I especially hate it when male comedians trot it out as if it were the funniest punch line ever. <BR/>Just saying.UneFemmePlusCourageusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10162627227823701520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-26048281373076164462007-08-12T18:43:00.000-07:002007-08-12T18:43:00.000-07:00"Hm. Not really, but I don't in any way feel threa..."Hm. Not really, but I don't in any way feel threatened by her. The way you used the word, it sounded like you were saying she had a certain sort of imposing aura, and I don't get that vibe at all."<BR/><BR/>I hear you. I meant from the standpoint of a prospective male partner. The exact context was the following:<BR/><BR/>"That's why it's so impressive to me that you are able to accept a certain amount of vulnerability in a man. You're very formidable, and being able to achieve a comfort level with the very real possibility that you could overpower/dominate someone who culturally gains power from relative size and dominance, while still making this work -- that's pretty awesome."<BR/><BR/>Cassandra, and possibly you as well, has been fortunate to encounter the rare breed of male who has no concerns about feeling emasculated by intelligence, wit, social and sexual confidence, worldliness, in the same package. Maybe because I have historically been attracted to a macho, man's man type of exterior, I have found it hard to find this kind of acceptance. Most of my relationships before MrO have involved some form of mostly unconscious catering to egos, to preserve equanimity in this regard. During the stripping era, of course, things became easier because of the rescue fantasy that evoked, but since I had an independent exit plan, this wasn't really a solution.Octogalorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14052288318330285365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-22668169868597162482007-08-12T16:13:00.000-07:002007-08-12T16:13:00.000-07:00"Trin – I think the word I used was “formidable,” ..."Trin – I think the word I used was “formidable,” not “imposing.” Defined as “arousing feelings of awe or admiration.” Cassandra is articulate, confident, worldly, in shape, very bright, clued in to her sexuality and comfortable with a sexuality that isn’t mainstream. That all adds up, to me, to “formidable.” In a way, the ability to turn it on and off makes it even more so. Do you disagree?"<BR/><BR/>Hm. Not really, but I don't in any way feel threatened by her. The way you used the word, it sounded like you were saying she had a certain sort of imposing aura, and I don't get that vibe at all.Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-91715849023819459152007-08-12T01:41:00.000-07:002007-08-12T01:41:00.000-07:00To clarify: when I say "delicate", I mean "used by...To clarify: when I say "delicate", I mean "used by people for whom even uttering the word 'gay' would be crass, because it is so very very dirty."Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476739382162784615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-73612980363642608232007-08-12T01:34:00.000-07:002007-08-12T01:34:00.000-07:00Personally, if I absolutely had to define you, I'd...Personally, if I absolutely had to define you, I'd say "into power-play with fey/androgynous men".<BR/><BR/>But I think "fey" might have slightly different connotations for me than most people? (I've seen it used as a "delicate" synonym for gay, and I don't mean exactly elfin either... But I do know the kind of guy you're talking about.)<BR/><BR/>That's a quick bead on it, though.<BR/><BR/>As for the money = sexy thing... I could maybe understand "money = get to do cool things with this person that maybe I couldn't without the $$ = sexier", but wealth being the entire attraction? Nah. My attraction is almost entirely physical and mental.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476739382162784615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-56320846255858876012007-08-11T15:22:00.000-07:002007-08-11T15:22:00.000-07:00I can look at those men and find them aestheticall...<I>I can look at those men and find them aesthetically pleasing; I can see why other people find them sexy. But for me…on a sexual level it just does not compute. No response. It’s not even revulsion, it’s just…nothing. A blank space where desire “should” be.<BR/><BR/>That can be a disconcerting feeling when you’re young, that sense that there’s a way your libido is “supposed” to work and it doesn’t work that way at all. It was for me. I’ve gone through various stages of trying to convince myself that I can be attracted to those men, and it’s never worked. My body just won’t cooperate.</I><BR/><BR/>oh well does THAT ever resonate. course, with me it was a bit more clearly delineated...belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-32189390430060181192007-08-10T21:06:00.000-07:002007-08-10T21:06:00.000-07:00Check out the Okinawa Program. It's a study done ...Check out the Okinawa Program. It's a study done to look at the high number of >100 year old people in Okinawa and looking at diet and nutrition to figure out why. What they say about soy is that Okinawan women who have large quantities of soy get natural estrogens from this. Soy has flavinoids which are selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) which block estrogen from certain areas like the endometrium and breasts but allow it to promote bone growth. The had the stat that an Okinawan woman’s odds of not getting breast cancer are better by more than 80 percent than those of a North American woman.<BR/><BR/>I actually like the taste of it, though. I think you could probably sub skim milk or 1% if you don't.<BR/><BR/>Sorry about the longwindedness about soy here...Octogalorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14052288318330285365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-4566608885313599212007-08-10T20:00:00.000-07:002007-08-10T20:00:00.000-07:00Oatmeal I can do. I actually prefer the slow-cooki...Oatmeal I can do. I actually prefer the slow-cooking kind so it's easy to control how much sugar I use. Did he say anything about raisins?<BR/><BR/>I'd have a hard time with the 5 or 6 meals thing, just because it's so inconvenient, BUT since I like fruit it would be easy to include that if it "counts", which it may not as fruit lacks protein.<BR/><BR/>The hardest thing for me is breakfast, actually. I dislike most Western breakfast foods, and I don't like milk at all, but I know breakfast is the most important meal and yadda yadda. I've been seriously contemplating doing what I did as a kid in the Middle East and just treating breakfast like any other meal, ie eating a small portion of rice + meat + veggies. <BR/><BR/>Speaking of...did he say anything specific about dairy? I only ask because I noticed you mentioned substituting soy milk. <BR/><BR/>(I'm kind of iffy about soy milk because they still don't seem to be quite sure how the soy/breast cancer interaction works. Some people say it's preventative, but then again it's a plant estrogen so...)Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-40451813316338035392007-08-10T19:30:00.000-07:002007-08-10T19:30:00.000-07:00That's pretty much it. For carbs, he said oatmeal...That's pretty much it. For carbs, he said oatmeal without a lot of sugar (like the GoLean kind), brown rice, seven-grain bread and the occasional healthy-type bran muffin are good.<BR/><BR/>The wheatena is really heavy in grains so a good dose of that goes pretty far to covering the daily requt, apparently. <BR/><BR/>Full disclosure, I haven't had a day yet (started 2 weeks ago) where I've stuck to this. I'm not into the many meals thing, I get stressed at work and need to be able to look forward to big meals. And typically, unlike the ideal plan where breakfast is the biggest, I eat most for dinner, and typically will have a late-night snack. <BR/><BR/>I'm planning to try to find some kind of happy medium by cutting out bad fats, keeping the late-night snack fruit-oriented, maybe subbing soy or skim milk for my lattees, and trying to eat more veggies and less carbs. Other than that, I'll have to phase it in -- life's too short.<BR/><BR/>I have limited discipline for food modification but a lot of it re working out cardio and abs, so I'm hoping the latter can get me to the flat tum, if not the sixpack. I read that women can't get a sixpack until you hit lower than 12% bodyfat, and I'm pretty far away from that and not likely to get there pretty much ever.Octogalorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14052288318330285365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-8434402194937958562007-08-10T16:23:00.000-07:002007-08-10T16:23:00.000-07:00Octo - Mwah! For that last comment. About the emas...Octo - Mwah! For that last comment. <BR/><BR/>About the emasculation thing...I guess I've just always had the sense that most men aren't going to be a good fit for me and I'm OK with that, so I don't really care if they essentially elimate themselves from consideration. I mean, if they're not exactly what I'm looking for then why bother, really, since I'm just going to end up dumping them eventually anyway.<BR/><BR/>RE The meal plan - so he's suggesting that you drastically limit (but not elimate, because then you won't have enough energy to work out)carbs, while amping up the protein and produce and elminating most of the less-beneficial fats?<BR/><BR/>My great dietary weakness is chocolate, which I'm sure is part of why the pooch refuses to budge. <BR/><BR/>Also, did he suggest any alternatives to the wheat crackers? I hate crackers, not much interested in salty snacks in general unless they come with really good salsa.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-28318387447545047042007-08-10T15:58:00.000-07:002007-08-10T15:58:00.000-07:00"If a guy is worrying about being emasculated then..."If a guy is worrying about being emasculated then he's pretty much by definition not someone I'd be comfortable dating."<BR/><BR/>This would strike me as ruling out more guys than the sixpack rule would. I don’t seek out, or find attractive, guys who are actively worrying about emasculation, either. To me it seems like even extremely secure men aren’t completely impervious to gender insecurity, though. <BR/><BR/>“Although, care to share the meal plan? I've got a great ab workout but I'm still poochier in the stomach than I'd like. The upper arms could use some help, too.”<BR/><BR/>I've learned from my trainer that diet is a big factor in pooch removal. Which is not good news for me, because I love my cheesy Caesar salads and creamy frappucinos.<BR/><BR/>Basically, he suggested 4-5 meals a day with a combination of whole grains, protein, “good” fats (with Omega 3s) and lots of fruit/veg. Here is what he suggested (not saying I can stick with this):<BR/><BR/>Breakfast: wheatena, 4 egg whites, soy tea.<BR/><BR/>Snack: fruit<BR/><BR/>Lunch: 3 oz chicken/turkey/fish, mixed greens with olive oil and balsamic, 2 TBS each<BR/><BR/>Snack: high fiber fruit, several wheat crackers<BR/><BR/>Dinner: 3-4 oz protein, eg salmon/chicken; yams; greens<BR/><BR/>Trin – I think the word I used was “formidable,” not “imposing.” Defined as “arousing feelings of awe or admiration.” Cassandra is articulate, confident, worldly, in shape, very bright, clued in to her sexuality and comfortable with a sexuality that isn’t mainstream. That all adds up, to me, to “formidable.” In a way, the ability to turn it on and off makes it even more so. Do you disagree?Octogalorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14052288318330285365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-78243959928644466682007-08-10T15:23:00.000-07:002007-08-10T15:23:00.000-07:00Trin - I don't think I'm imposing either unless I ...Trin - I don't think I'm imposing either unless I want to be - I'm a little too friendly, you know? - but it tickles the hell out of me that people so often think so.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And this..."General confidence, sure. But that? No. It's like "Who made you my top without my consent?" "<BR/><BR/>Yep. To me most het dating looks like a really mild and poorly executed form of BSDM, except nobody has safe words and you don't get any choice about which role you play. I never did get why that would be fun.<BR/><BR/>Which is yet ANOTHER reason that the relative lack of friendliness to the femmey and/or sub boys rankles so much, since along with the toppish and not-so-femmey girls those are usually the first people to question why the whole system is set up the way it is. Those men are our natural allies. I'm not sure why this fact is so hard for some people to grasp.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-19426331677927646142007-08-10T10:49:00.000-07:002007-08-10T10:49:00.000-07:00Y'know -- this is in no way an insult but I wouldn...Y'know -- this is in no way an insult but I wouldn't describe you as "imposing" at all.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure you are when you wish to be, but you don't seem that way to me generally at all. <BR/><BR/>Octo, what did you mean?Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06846032433424879965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-83292129154617249192007-08-10T09:32:00.000-07:002007-08-10T09:32:00.000-07:00Cassandra, we must be soul sisters! I'm so with yo...Cassandra, we must be soul sisters! <BR/><BR/>I'm so with you on the femmey boys, as you know. <BR/><BR/>It's funny- my actual sister loves power and money. But she’s big into image, pleasing other people, playing the game ect.. Love her, but it’s true. I guess I've always been more interested in acquiring my own power & money- if the person who I'm with has power & money, good for them, but it's not a requirement. What matters to me is that they are willing to surrender and crawl out of their shell... sexually, that is.<BR/><BR/>Gender Outlaws please me immensely. Boys who look like girls and girls who look like boys. Radical people who give society the finger...yeah.<BR/>Sexy.<BR/><BR/>I've never understood the whole "women are vulnerable delicate flowers and must be protected from the menz" rad fem stance either. I'm not scared, and it doesn't sound like anyone responding to this thread is.SallySunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417077309361828475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-18077884144977960892007-08-10T05:22:00.000-07:002007-08-10T05:22:00.000-07:00Well, having never felt 'little and cute' in my li...Well, having never felt 'little and cute' in my life (it's kinda hard when you're 5'10 and 200 lbs by the time you're 12, ya know?), I gave up worrying about a man's height a long time ago. Ditto with weight. The fact of the matter is, most men are going to be shorter and lighter than me. Especially now that all the damned steroids have packed on the pounds. But ya know, it doesn't matter so much to me. I need a man/woman who is confident with his/herself. Granted, I tend to prefer my men skinny and tall, but ya know, if he's chubby and short and he's happy with himself? That's cool too. I need someone who feels the need to make excuses for his body. I don't want to hear how you're really trying hard to lose those ten pounds or how you've been dieting for X months/years/whatever. If you are in fact doing those things, fine. But don't make that the center of your life. (And yeah, women do this too. It annoys the hell out of me.) Granted, I won't be attracted to someone so large they can't function. I wouldn't expect anyone to be attracted to me either, if I couldn't function. But I'm not so much stuck on body shapes as I am that inherent sense of....certainity about themselves, ya know? <BR/><BR/>This has been a development of the last few years. When I was younger (and healthier) I was very conscious of what the person I was with looked like, almost like it was some validation of my worth as a person -- look! Someone pretty likes me! Of course, that came out of a lot of programming that I was the chubby, smart one, not the pretty datable one. Which is not to say I wasn't genuinely attracted to the people I was with, just there was another motive as well.<BR/><BR/>And I like feminine men. I do. But that has more to do with their attitude than appearance. Or maybe it has as much to do with their attitude as appearance. By nature, I'm very protective of those that I love and tend to be a bit...oh, dominant? So I need someone who is comfortable enough with himself, with his 'feminine' traits to be able to deal with that. I'm not sure if this is coming out right. Hrm. I need someone whose masculinity is not threatened by my desire to protect them. There. That's better. I need someone who isn't freaked out by the fact that I may just want to put him in makeup, who isn't going to be insulted or think I'm some sort of freak. I need someone who's cool with the fact that I am a domme at time and dammit, he will so let me tie him up naked and do what I want or else. I need someone turned on by that, who can appreciate my complexity. So, if he/she can do that? The package he/she comes in isn't all that important to me, in the long run.<BR/><BR/>I've also been accused, on numerous occassions, of having a scary, overwhelming personality. It always baffles me, because I know that I would never actually hurt someone (who didn't want me to), but apparently I can put the fear of me into people. Which pleases me greatly.Zanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086497481509929875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-27550552808090671892007-08-09T22:42:00.000-07:002007-08-09T22:42:00.000-07:00Trin - The wierd thing is that I don't think I am ...Trin - The wierd thing is that I don't think I am genderfucked, at least not in the way I understand the term. I look pretty girly, you know? And I feel comforable in a female body and all that stuff. And some parts of my personality are classically "feminine" - nurturing, physically demonstrative, blah blah. But then there's the toppiness and the feminism and the general bolshiness.<BR/>I'm not sure how to describe my own space on the gender/sexuality continuum at all. <BR/><BR/>Also, I think you and I may mean the same thing when we say "confidence", and I think it may be a different meaning to the one most other people use, at least when it applies to men.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-32243697511547084682007-08-09T22:27:00.000-07:002007-08-09T22:27:00.000-07:00dw3t-hthr - Timberlake really is utterly unremarka...dw3t-hthr - Timberlake really is utterly unremarkable, isn't he? Maybe it's some sort of boy next door thing? I remain baffled, personally. Kids these days!<BR/>(Shakes fist in crotchety manner)<BR/>The thin whiny annoying voice isn't helping, either. <BR/><BR/>The Mars/Venus people...the scary thing is that I suspect they may be in the majority. And as you said, it's a self-reinforcing thing - every time their wierd mythology inhibits their ability to communicate they just assume that it's proof that the mythology is correct. The whole thing's completely batshit. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Remember "The Rules"? That was the same thing. I can remember working with women who complained about how the techniques just weren't working, but it never occured to them to wonder if the whole system was dumb and illogical. They just assumed that they must not be doing it right. <BR/><BR/>Ick, wierd sexist traditional patriarchal people, get them off me!Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-39481615902126744402007-08-09T22:20:00.000-07:002007-08-09T22:20:00.000-07:00And also...poor Octo, slaving away with your hot t...And also...poor Octo, slaving away with your hot trainer every day. Oh how you suffer!<BR/><BR/>If you play it up well enough you can probably get a post-workout massage from Mr Octo out of the deal too.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14234730.post-34092310115674726642007-08-09T22:18:00.000-07:002007-08-09T22:18:00.000-07:00I'm not even asking for/expecting six pack abs - n...I'm not even asking for/expecting six pack abs - not that I'd object, but that's not the expectation. I'm just expecting that the SO remain basically the same shape he was when we hooked up, and thus still within the boundaries of my type. <BR/><BR/>Although, care to share the meal plan? I've got a great ab workout but I'm still poochier in the stomach than I'd like. The upper arms could use some help, too.<BR/><BR/>Also, before everyone thinks I'm being totally unfair...I assume that Mr Cassandra has similar expectations of me. I wouldn't expect him to be OK with me suddenly being a completely different shape, either.Cassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.com